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quelques indications sur le "Prélable Doctrinal" proposé à la FSSPX
par Presbu 2011-09-16 09:30:35
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extrait du blog "Vatican Insider" sous la signature du bien informé Andrea TORNIELLI: La SC Doctrina Fidei se contenterait de reprendre les bien connus trois degrés d'assentiment demandés aux catholiques "... 3° de volonté et d'intellect, notamment aux évêques, quand ils exercent leur magistère authentique" mais sans définir un critère nouveau d'authenticité, sinon l'herméneutique de la continuité!

In the past, more than once, a condition for full communion was set as the fact that Lefebvrians had to accept the last Council. In truth, yesterday’s “preamble” as it was offered to Fellay had a broader scope and it represents a fundamental platform stating “several doctrinal principles and interpretation criteria for the Catholic doctrine.”
It is a short and medi[t]ated document, which follows the “Professio fidei” published in 1989 by the former Holy Office and that states three different degrees of assent that the faithful must meet.
In essence, a Catholic strives to believe “with firm faith” all that is “within the Word of God” and that the Church defines as “divinely revealed”. Secondly, a Catholic agrees to accept all dogmas stated as such to this day.
Finally, and this is the difficult point for Lefebvrians, a Catholic is required to comply “with religious submission of will and intellect” to the teachings that the Pope and College of Bishops “set when they exercise their authentic Magisterium”, even when they are not stated in a dogmatic fashion, that is final. This is the most significant role of the magisterium, to which, for example, the encyclicals belong.
And many Vatican II documents come from it and they should be read, as all the magisterium teachings – the Holy See explains – in the light of tradition and as a development, and not as a breaking point, from previous doctrine, according to hermeneutics proposed by Benedict XVI.
“Accepting the profession of faith contained in the preamble – a Vatican prelate explains to La Stampa – does not mean giving up the opportunity to discuss this or that affirmation of the conciliar texts, or to silence a debate on their interpretation.” But the different interpretations “cannot be used as a pretext to reject the magisterium.”
The meeting was held in a cordial atmosphere, Fellay requested clarifications and insisted a lot on the critical situation in which, he said, the Church finds itself. However, from the Vatican side what needs to be discussed are the individual facts – such as liturgical abuses in certain countries – but without questioning the Pope’s authority.

     

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 quelques indications sur le "Prélable Doctrinal" proposé à la FSSPX par Presbu  (2011-09-16 09:30:35)
      Bref.... par Justin Petipeu  (2011-09-16 10:19:08)
          Que demander de plus ? par l'Hermitte  (2011-09-16 10:45:07)
      Finalement par Thomas  (2011-09-16 10:45:55)
          Oui mais, par Kephas  (2011-09-16 11:47:18)
              subsistit in par Thomas  (2011-09-16 12:05:20)
                  Ce qui sera nécessaire par Adso  (2011-09-16 14:02:40)
                      Il existe ! par Thomas  (2011-09-16 14:34:47)
                          Allons allons par Adso  (2011-09-16 15:10:42)
          S'efforcer de recevoir, par le torrentiel  (2011-09-16 12:21:46)
              Quelques indications de plus sur le Préambule par Jean Kinzler  (2011-09-16 15:49:25)
                  Si effectivement par Adso  (2011-09-16 16:43:37)
      en gros.... par Antoine  (2011-09-16 20:06:57)
      eh ben.... par Antoine  (2011-09-16 20:13:33)


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